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Who Coaches the All Blacks Next?

New Zealand Rugby’s decision to sack Scott Robertson mid‑cycle  –  less than two years into his tenure and 27 Tests into the job  –  has sent shockwaves through world rugby and opened up uncomfortable questions about power, politics, and planning at the top of the New Zealand game. Robertson left with a 74% win rate (20 wins from 27), a record that, on paper, looks solid. But 2025 turned toxic. A historic 43–10 defeat to the Springboks in Wellington  –  the heaviest loss in All Blacks history  –  was followed by a first‑ever defeat to Argentina in Argentina, and a 33–19 loss to England. The results were bad enough. The stories behind them were worse.

Multiple reports suggested deep misalignment in strategy, selection, and communication. Senior players were said to be unhappy with aspects of Robertson’s approach and certain selection calls, while New Zealand Rugby chairman David Kirk publicly denied a “player revolt” but did concede there had been a breakdown of trust. Officially, it was framed as a performance‑driven decision. Unofficially, it looked like a messy collision between a high‑profile coach with a big personality, a powerful senior playing group, and a governing body wary of another World Cup cycle sliding off track.

Either way, the end result is the same: the most demanding role in world rugby is unexpectedly vacant  –  and the scramble to replace Robertson has already generated its own drama.

The Tony Brown Saga: Rassie, AI Videos, and a Watertight Contract

No sooner had Robertson been pushed out than speculation turned to Tony Brown  –  long regarded as one of the most creative attacking coaches in the sport and a natural philosophical fit for New Zealand rugby. On paper, the narrative wrote itself: Brown, the visionary Kiwi tactician currently reshaping the Springboks’ attack, returning home as the saviour of a stuttering All Blacks side. South Africa’s director of rugby, Rassie Erasmus, clearly thought the story was getting out of hand.

Within hours of rumours linking Brown to the All Blacks vacancy, Erasmus took to social media with a pointed response:

  • First, an AI‑generated image of Brown in the famous “I’m not leaving” scene from The Wolf of Wall Street;
  • Then, an AI‑generated video of Brown repeating the same line in a Kiwi accent.

The message underneath the humour was crystal clear: Brown is not leaving the Springboks.

Multiple outlets in New Zealand and South Africa reported that Brown is contracted with the Boks through to the 2027 Rugby World Cup, with the arrangement described by sources as “watertight.” Any move would require South Africa to agree to an early release and, almost certainly, a significant financial settlement. The appetite in Pretoria for losing one of the key architects of their new attacking shape appears to be zero.

The controversy beneath the memes

Erasmus’s trolling played brilliantly online. But beneath the memes lies a more serious tension:

  • Should NZR have been seen to be circling a coach already under contract elsewhere? Even informal conversations can be sensitive in a tight coaching market.
  • Does this episode make New Zealand rugby look a little desperate? When the best attacking mind in the world is Kiwi but working for your greatest rival  –  and apparently unavailable  –  that’s a bitter pill for many fans.
  • Is Erasmus now shaping the narrative around the All Blacks as much as he is the Springboks? Publicly mocking All Blacks speculation, using a New Zealand assistant as the punchline, is a bold flex of power.

Whatever the spin, the bottom line is simple: Tony Brown is effectively off the table, at least as a head‑coach candidate and almost certainly even as an assistant. New Zealand’s early “dream pick” appears to be staying exactly where he is.

Why Brown Was Never Likely to Come in as Head Coach Anyway

Even if Brown’s contract situation were more flexible, his fit as a head coach is not straightforward. Across his career, Brown has tended to operate best as the attacking specialist and tactical brain rather than the political front man. His reputation is built on shaping gameplans, systems, and skill frameworks, not on managing boardrooms, sponsors, and the relentless public scrutiny that comes with the All Blacks job. There is a growing sense in international rugby that some of the very best minds  –  the ones seeing the game most clearly  –  prefer to avoid the head‑coach spotlight. Brown fits that profile. He exerts huge influence where it matters most: on the training field and in the box on match day, designing plays and reading opposition weaknesses.

Would Brown one day make a superb All Blacks head coach? Possibly. But right now, with a watertight Springboks contract and a role that seems tailor‑made for his strengths, the idea that he would walk away to inherit a fractured New Zealand environment and a restless public looks more romantic than realistic.

The Genuine Runners: Schmidt, Cotter, Joseph

With Brown all but ruled out, attention swings to three main candidates  –  each with very different pros, cons, and timelines.

1. Joe Schmidt – The Long Game

Current role: Wallabies head coach
Contract status: Signed through mid‑2026, after which Les Kiss will take over.

Joe Schmidt has restored structure and credibility to a struggling Wallabies side. Under his guidance, Australia has regained shape, resilience, and a sense of direction that had been missing for years. He is contracted to see them through:

  • The British & Irish Lions tour, and
  • The 2026 Nations Cup in Australia.

Only after mid‑2026 does he become available.

From an All Blacks perspective, that raises a brutal question:

Are NZR willing to operate with a stopgap or caretaker model for six months just to land Schmidt?

That kind of delayed appointment would be controversial on multiple fronts:

  • Perception in Australia: Poaching the Wallabies coach, even post‑contract, would trigger outrage across the Tasman.
  • Stability in New Zealand: Players and fans are already wary of more uncertainty after the Robertson fallout. Asking everyone to “hold tight until Schmidt arrives” would be a high‑risk political move.
  • Optics of planning: It would confirm that NZR see Schmidt as the long‑term answer  –  a public vote of no confidence in any domestic candidate willing to step in immediately.

On the other hand, Schmidt’s track record is compelling: disciplined systems, tactical clarity, and a reputation for turning chaos into structure. For a team that has looked unclear about how it wants to play, he is a logical, if politically explosive, choice.

2. Vern Cotter – The Immediate Stabiliser

Current role: Blues head coach
Status: Strong, available, and respected.

Vern Cotter’s impact on the Blues has been transformative. Taking over in 2024, he delivered a Super Rugby Pacific title in his first season, reshaping a talented but inconsistent side into a ruthless machine.

Cotter has several attributes that will appeal to NZR after the Robertson era:

  • Direct communication: He is known for telling players exactly where they stand. After whispers of confusion and mixed messaging under Robertson, that clarity is attractive.
  • International experience: His tenure with Scotland showed he can build competitive, gritty Test teams.
  • Track record with stars: At the Blues, he’s managed big personalities and turned them into a coherent, hard‑edged unit.

The controversy here is more philosophical than personal:

  • Is Cotter a short‑term fixer or a multi‑cycle visionary? Some will argue his age profile and style make him a “bridge” rather than a “builder.”
  • Does New Zealand rugby want to double down on a more pragmatic approach after Robertson  –  or re‑embrace a bolder attacking identity?

If NZR want stability now, Cotter is the safest available pair of hands. But appointing him will inevitably be read by some as a retreat into conservatism.

3. Jamie Joseph – The Insider With Global Clout

Current roles: Highlanders head coach; All Blacks XV head coach (2025–26)

Jamie Joseph offers something unique: deep knowledge of New Zealand rugby and a proven record of over‑delivering with a so‑called “tier two” nation.

With Japan, he engineered one of the great modern Rugby World Cup stories in 2019, including that famous pool win over Ireland, and built a team that played with clarity, precision, and emotional cohesion.

Back home, he’s now:

  • Leading the Highlanders, and
  • Contracted as head coach of the All Blacks XV through 2026.

That All Blacks XV role is quietly significant. It means Joseph is already embedded in NZR’s high‑performance pathway and closely aligned with the next tier of Test‑level talent.

The big questions around Joseph are:

  • Style: Is his rugby identity what NZR want the All Blacks to represent in 2027 and beyond  –  and does he align with the board’s vision of how New Zealand should play?
  • Change management: After a messy, public decoupling from Robertson, does NZR have the appetite for another strong‑willed coach who will want autonomy and clear authority?

Joseph’s appointment would be less of a shock than Schmidt’s and more of a long‑term bet than Cotter’s. But it would still mark a decisive call on what kind of All Blacks team New Zealand wants to be.

The Bigger Controversy: Who Really Runs the All Blacks?

Beyond the names, there’s a darker, structural question looming over this entire process:

Who actually holds the real power in New Zealand rugby  –  the board, the high‑performance department, or the senior players?

Robertson’s exit, framed as performance‑based, came amid reports of:

  • Player dissatisfaction with aspects of his approach
  • Questions around selection and gameplan clarity
  • A sense of misalignment between Robertson’s staff and NZR’s high‑performance leadership

Kirk has denied a formal “player revolt,” but the fact that phrase was even in circulation is telling. Around the rugby world, it has prompted whispers:

  • Did senior players effectively veto the coach?
  • Are NZR too quick to panic when results dip, rather than backing a long‑term plan?
  • Has the All Blacks jersey become so politically charged that no coach is truly safe?

Whichever candidate steps into the role next inherits more than a team. They inherit:

  • A bruised squad,
  • A skeptical public,
  • A powerful media glare, and
  • An organisation desperate to avoid a repeat of the last two turbulent cycles.

If the core issues of trust, alignment, and authority are not resolved, it almost doesn’t matter who gets the job  –  the same fractures will eventually reappear.

The Path Forward: Stability, Vision… or Another Gamble?

So where does this leave New Zealand Rugby?

Broadly, NZR face three strategic options:

  1. Immediate stability: Appoint Vern Cotter or Jamie Joseph now, restore clarity and cohesion, and accept that Brown (and probably Schmidt, for now) are off the table.
  2. Delayed “big bet” on Schmidt: Install an interim or caretaker structure through early 2026, then hand the reins to Schmidt and build a multi‑cycle project around him. This is technically viable  –  and politically explosive.
  3. Left‑field appointment: Look beyond the obvious candidates, either domestically or overseas, and accept the risk of another experimental call in the most pressured job in rugby.

The one constant in all scenarios is this: Tony Brown, the fan‑favourite fantasy fix, is locked into the Springboks until 2027 and is being publicly defended  –  and gleefully memed  –  by Rassie Erasmus. For New Zealand, that stings. The most inventive Kiwi attacking mind of his generation is helping sharpen the edge of their greatest rival. And he’s not leaving.

An Unfamiliar Feeling: Genuine Uncertainty

For the first time in decades, the identity and direction of the All Blacks feel genuinely uncertain.

  • The last head coach was sacked mid‑cycle despite a 74% win rate.
  • The most coveted Kiwi tactician is contracted to South Africa.
  • The most plausible global operator is coaching Australia.
  • The leading domestic candidates each come with non‑trivial trade‑offs.

Whoever steps into the role next won’t just be tasked with winning Test matches. They’ll be expected to:

  • Repair trust inside the camp
  • Align with NZR’s long‑term high‑performance vision
  • Define what All Blacks rugby is supposed to look like in the late 2020s
  • And do all of that under a microscope that will magnify every selection, every media conference, every loss.

The All Blacks job has always been the pinnacle of test coaching. Right now, it also looks like the most politically fraught. The only certainty is this: the next appointment will tell us as much about New Zealand Rugby’s character and courage as it will about the coach himself.

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